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I've been thinking a lot about her. Her life was quite interesting. I miss her.

Was she a lesbian? I always wanted her to be my maid.

I think Alice (ann b.) should start replacing Ethel (Vivian Vance ) as DL's Matron Saint with all the threads about her recently

She played a man hungry secretary on a TV Show and won a couple of Emmys, yet she's always remember for The Brady Bonch"

She disliked Rip Taylor and having to work with him on the Variety Show.

She lived a life that wasn’t that much different from a Catholic nun, although her denomination was Episcopalian. She lived in a community of like minded Christians and lived her life in prayer and good works.

I thought it was Ann B Alice as "Davis"

Somewhere, in that great Home Depot in the sky, Ann B. Davis and Nancy Kulp are scissoring in the build-your-own-deck aisle while Mary Wickes looks on in delight.

On the bob Cummings show, she played a photographer assistant and was surrounded by models in bathing suits nearly every episode. What a part if you are a lesbian, just saying. I read the religious order she lived at was only for women...

I think I missed this episode

Who could ever forget Ann B. Davis in Last Tango In Paris?

I served coffee to her and Evelyn Keyes when they were in town playing in No, No, Nanette. Also met Don Ameche, in the hotel's elevator, who was also in the same production. I was so near the greats of yesteryear. This was in 1973.

Or her Oscar-winning turn in Goodfellas?

I always got the sense she was a lesbian but guilty about it. She was in a religious home at the end.

Same with Agnes Moorhead. Very different - butch if not an actual lesbian....but with complicated religious upbringing that she carried with her all her life.

Ann, Nancy (pet name for Ann) and Sheila use to do the scissorine all the time.

Ann B. Davis was so ashamed of being a muff-hungry dyke that she buried herself in a catholic order of nuns after her showbiz career cooled. She thought God could take away her hunger for clam but she craved it until the day she died.

How sad.

Ann B. Davis should have been the star of TV’s Alice!

Yes, she was a lesbian but back in the day when there was a lot of homophobia. She got into show business but apparently lived a quiet personal life.

With Bob Cummings on his show back in the late 1950's.

She was a lesbian. On the show, Alice dated "Sam the butcher". Sam (Samantha) didn't carve meat for a living, though. Around town, they were known as "Alice the butch" and "Sam the Butcher".

Bob Cummings always pinged for me majorly.

Alice waiting for the Avon Lady.

R21 He certainly pings here.

I called her Schultzy.

It's a wonder how these middleclass TV families could afford live-in maids!

I always tear up in that episode where the Brady kids think Alice turned on them and ratted them all out. The kids are all in the backyard and Bobby says Alice isn't their friend anymore and the camera zooms in on Ann who is about to sob.

Ann was looking for love at one point.

I wonder if Ann ever got down in the lady ham or repressed it her whole life.

She had an identical twin Harriet! I didn't know that.

I remember seeing her interviewed years ago and she referred to Nancy Kulp as "very weird", a few months after Nancy came out. I never cared much for Ann after that.

Ann's Archive of American Television interview. Nothing about muff-diving, but interesting nonetheless.

She was the most lovable dyke in tv history.

r3

A closeted, self-loathing lesbian is someone to be looked up to?

[quote]R30 She had an identical twin Harriet! I didn't know that.

She replaced Carol Burnett in ONCE UPON A MATTRESS in 1960

With VIVIAN VANCE herself!!

Oh my GAWD R22. I can’t fucking unsee that now. OMFG. You are so mean.

Sorry, but Ann B. is not allowed to become a DL legend or even a fave. The bitch went to her grave hating that she liked gash. It's one thing to be private about your personal/sex/love life. It's no one's business if you don't wish to share. It's quite another to bury yourself in a fucking convent because you're so terrified that Jesus will come down off the cross and smite you if you have an impure thought about the beaver of the old dyke praying next to you. Fuck Ann. Fuck her right in the pussy.

Vivian forever!

I’m kind of with R42, only a little less militantly. Viva Nancy Kulp!

ALL the hairbrushes need washing.

She wasn't Catholic. Wasn't a nun. Didn't live in a convent. Was part of a "community" that was run by one of the people who formed a conservative offshoot of the Episcopalian Church. Moorehead was a Presbyterian minister's kid back in the day when Presbyterians wouldn't read the comics on Sunday and she went back to that kind of Calvinist nonsense as she got older.

She told Mr Brady to eat shit and die and he did.

Can't imagine saying this, but Ann B. Davis is better looking than her twin. And she grew into her looks as she aged, becoming more grandmotherly in appearance.

In the Emmy interview, she's very odd with her pronouns, mostly non specific in a very closeted way.

Vintage gossip: “Davis, Ann B. Religious fanatic and alcoholic. L______. (Lesbian) “

[quote] She wasn't Catholic. Wasn't a nun. Didn't live in a convent. Was part of a "community" that was run by one of the people who formed a conservative offshoot of the Episcopalian Church.

Oh, wellllllll, that's just 180 degrees from what I said then, isn't it?

Alice referred to Carol's girls as The Brady Munch. Especially Jan 'cause, you know, she was a middle just like her.

You queens are hilarious - probably the only time I've ever associated lesbianism with humor.

R10. Alice would have no trouble retrieving the butter. She kept a well organized fridge.

Poor Alice in "Last Tango In Paris" had to clean up that bedroom after Brando and Maria Schneider were done with it. Jesus!

Omg, is that Allison Janney in that pic with Ann and Viv?

Why did the Bradys even need a housekeeper when Carol didn't work and just sat around on her ass all day?

R60 Alice was Mike Brady's housekeeper and Mike kept her on to help Carol run the household. Carol was shown helping with the cooking and cleaning at times. Plus, she dispensed advice when needed like "Never play ball in the house".

Ummm r60 Mrs Brady had her cross stitch to do. She also had regular hairdressing appointments to attend, not to mention choir practice. Plus we were having the straight sex all the time. I was mad for it. Couldn’t get enough of her. It was not at all gross, it was magical. So she didn’t have time for folding towels, thank you.

r59 Turn in your gay card.

I'm quite old so definitely remember Ann more for Schultzy than Alice.

The Bob Cummings Show still holds up pretty well, unlike most sitcoms from the 1950s. The head writer/producer was Paul Henning who also did that job for Burns and Allen (another great TV series from the era). Those two and I Love Lucy are the only ones I can still watch in reruns and genuinely enjoy.

Alice was a maid by day, and a light domme by night. That's why Mike and Carol kept her on - she frequently joined them in the bedroom for some kinky fun after the kids went to sleep.

The safety word was "Lemon Pledge."

Always loved the story about how Robert Reed was bitching about filming some scene on The Bradys and Ann had had enough. He said "If we don't get this right, we'll all be in deep shit." to which Ann snidely said, "Gee, Mr. Brady, how deep is your shit?"

So has it been established if she quaffed from the furred cup?

Circumstantial evidence often is enough. Ann B. seems like a total obvious muff diver.

She owned the Cass Mansion in Denver in the 1970's and sold it in 1990 when she moved away. I pass it everyday as it is near my place. You can see her name in the title chain if you look the property up on the city tax records.

Female here. Hetero. I liked Ann and prefer other no-nonsense women like her. They are so often down to earth, funny and good-hearted while girly girls are often catty, superficial and self obsessed. (Yes, I know I’m generalizing.)

In reality, most of my female friends are somewhere in between the two types.

But I really liked Ann and the characters she played.

Watch the interview upthread--she's really wierd with her pronouns in the manner of closeted gay people of her generation.

Just because a woman plays a maid on tv, has a few extra pounds and has never married, doesn't make her a lesbian.

Ann and Rose Marie should've been cast in a lez version of The Odd Couple.

Rose Marie did appear with Ann on several episodes of Love That Bob back in the 1950s and she portrayed an even fiercer, more man-hungry secretary than Ann's Schultzy.

On that sitcom, the third of their coffee klatsch was Kathleen Freeman, another character actress, old before her time, who was constantly cast throughout the 1950s-80s as old maid domestics and office drudges. But those three ladies were hilarious together.

Of course, Nancy Kulp, as bird watcher Pamela Livingstone, was in a class by herself. Far more outrageous than she ever was as Miss Jane Hathaway.

To be fair to Carol Brady, she was on several committees and sang in the church choir so she had to practice. Alice filled in the gap and her pot roast was to die for.

STOP THAT, R76 and R22! If I wasn't gay before seeing that, I am now.

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